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In late 1977, Barry boys, Bryn Merrick and Andy Johnson made the musical transition from playing early seventies rock to playing out and out punk. Merrick, Johnson, & another hard-rock gutarist who soon left, started putting together some original material together, with their limited musical talent, and roped in a 15 year old Mike Rudman on drums, whose previous experience was playing snare in the local jazz band. The next recruit was Andy James on vocals.